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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jul-09-03 01:55 PM
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Black Box Voting: The first volley is OUT
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 03:38 AM by BevHarris

Go to:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00064.htm

and, if you are a computer geek, scroll down, because the publisher of this news outlet has, for the first time, made THE ENTIRE 40,000 DIEBOLD FILES available to the world, and has backups waiting in the wings. Let's synchronize our watches now -- we'll see how long his site holds up to what is sure to be an onslaught of corporate fury.

Several other web owners have got his back on this, and are putting up their own repository of the full 40,000 files. Will you?

For an illustrated journey through the innards of a real vote-counting program, go here:

Inside A U.S. Election Vote Counting Program
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00065.htm

-- Caveats abound, and yes, this is just an example with a test file, but it is using the real, certified version of the Diebold vote-counting program, and it is using a test file created by Diebold. No, in my opinion it's not the biggest story in the world. Yet. It's a neonate, but already being nourished with new SPECIFIC information on what's really going on in the tight-lipped fat-walleted world of voting machines.

Get there before it's gone, folks, and if you are a blogger, or know a website owner, note the emphasis at the top -- these articles are to be shared as widely and as quickly as possible, and there are more coming immediately on the heels of this, and there will absolutely be an effort to shut this stuff up.

This has already gone out to a select list of journalists. We are following the tradition of what has WORKED: First, the Internet. Rolling out to one set of media after the next. It has begun.

Bev Harris
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/

 
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  Wow.....reading now. HerbieHeadhunter Jul-08-03 02:45 AM, #1
  Downloading now nextbillgates Jul-08-03 02:48 AM, #2
  AWESOME work Bev! Colleagues and friends been waiting for this! Tinoire Jul-08-03 02:48 AM, #3
  Bev I have forwarded this to select lists as well nadinbrzezinski Jul-08-03 02:50 AM, #4
  Hang on tight boys and girls! ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 02:54 AM, #5
  Why does Scoop not have OhMyGod Jul-08-03 02:59 AM, #6
  He does have it on his front page: Titled Bigger Than Watergate BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:08 AM, #10
  Yahoo Group? suigeneris Jul-08-03 03:06 AM, #7
  Sorry about that link... it is corrected now... althecat Jul-08-03 04:59 AM, #37
  Interesting reading. Any comments on their caveat, Bev? Wonk Jul-08-03 03:06 AM, #8
  Coming soon: Conversations with County Employees BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:11 AM, #12
  Thanks fabius Jul-08-03 03:07 AM, #9
  fanTAStic!! I have forwarded to 15 people -- ima_sinnic Jul-08-03 03:10 AM, #11
  Yup, that's pretty much it, isn't it? punpirate Jul-08-03 03:12 AM, #13
  Pun -- The next piece will be familiar to you BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:20 AM, #15
     Well, I'll have to read the next installment... punpirate Jul-08-03 03:24 AM, #17
        The next part is not about code, but documentation. BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:40 AM, #21
  Wouldn't this article qualify for LBN? Bushfire Jul-08-03 03:13 AM, #14
  It is breaking -- but I didn't want to dup. It's hitting more news outlets BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:22 AM, #16
  Got 'em, coach ... err, I mean ... Bev! MSchreader Jul-08-03 03:32 AM, #18
  Glad to. PM me here with it BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:41 AM, #23
  Was the GAO involved? higher class Jul-08-03 03:33 AM, #19
  It is now up to THEM to prove their system can be trusted BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:49 AM, #24
     Sanity Check OrdinaryTa Jul-08-03 10:43 AM, #56
  Just Curious OhMyGod Jul-08-03 03:33 AM, #20
  Good idea! In fact, a comparison of systems vs accuracy BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:51 AM, #25
  We will not go gentle into that good night angka Jul-08-03 03:40 AM, #22
  Bev, Could you ask the legal team... ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 03:57 AM, #26
  A new forum is going up as we speak. Slashdot and all are invited BevHarris Jul-08-03 04:02 AM, #27
     No Bev, I mean from the Diebold code... ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 04:26 AM, #30
        Well those are comments, not code. BevHarris Jul-08-03 04:31 AM, #32
           I found quite a few real winners! ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 04:36 AM, #33
              Wooh! a thread of comments! Would you also post it BevHarris Jul-08-03 04:39 AM, #35
                 I'll be glad to! ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 04:44 AM, #36
                 Electronic Fronteir Foundation had a story July 2 cap Jul-08-03 08:21 AM, #40
  I hope people "get" how big a deal this is... IMayBeWrongBut Jul-08-03 04:03 AM, #28
  Most likely method for that would be BevHarris Jul-08-03 04:17 AM, #29
     That's what the logic flow chart is for! ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 04:29 AM, #31
  The votes are recorded in 3 ledgers... IMayBeWrongBut Jul-08-03 04:37 AM, #34
  You Must Be Thrilled To Have This All Coming Together ! LibertyorDeath Jul-08-03 06:22 AM, #38
  A bump for the morning crowd spinbaby Jul-08-03 08:10 AM, #39
  what comes first THANKS or CONGRATULATIONS? tinanator Jul-08-03 08:25 AM, #41
  ditto :-) papau Jul-08-03 04:12 PM, #99
  Mostly just a kick IMayBeWrongBut Jul-08-03 08:27 AM, #42
  GEMS Vote Counting Security Flaws: Clear and Devastating! flpoljunkie Jul-08-03 08:53 AM, #43
  Fantastic work.... deseo Jul-08-03 09:02 AM, #44
  Buzzflash has it . AbbPoacher Jul-08-03 09:04 AM, #45
  Can't read the GEMS manual jimmynochad Jul-08-03 09:16 AM, #46
  Awesome! laruemtt Jul-08-03 09:23 AM, #47
  Any chance of making some consolidated Zip files? schrodinger_I Jul-08-03 09:39 AM, #48
  There are several GEMS manuals BevHarris Jul-08-03 10:43 AM, #57
     Tried but files are password protected jimmynochad Jul-08-03 11:14 AM, #58
  Incredibly lucid article , clear and understandable Shaddann Jul-08-03 09:46 AM, #49
  uh oh! the scoop links are DEAD nostamj Jul-08-03 09:56 AM, #50
  works now dweller Jul-08-03 10:10 AM, #54
  I've sent the links MuseRider Jul-08-03 09:57 AM, #51
  Thank you for all if this fantastic work. n/t myrna minx Jul-08-03 10:06 AM, #52
  I have an important request sangh0 Jul-08-03 10:09 AM, #53
  Thanks! PATRICK Jul-08-03 10:33 AM, #55
  Question Nederland Jul-08-03 11:17 AM, #59
  Nope. Remote access will do. BevHarris Jul-08-03 11:19 AM, #60
     Connected? Nederland Jul-08-03 01:11 PM, #71
        Are machines connected to the internet? Do they have modems in them? BevHarris Jul-08-03 01:24 PM, #73
           Unbelievable (nt) Nederland Jul-08-03 01:34 PM, #78
              More than just an internet connection ... Trajan Jul-08-03 04:43 PM, #103
                 Much more than wireless as well DEMActivist Jul-08-03 06:30 PM, #130
  This is phenomenally well done, Bev! hedda_foil Jul-08-03 11:37 AM, #61
  Here are simple security measures that would help immensely BevHarris Jul-08-03 11:51 AM, #64
  Why did they make the print so small? WilliamPitt Jul-08-03 11:42 AM, #62
  Re: text size hedda_foil Jul-08-03 11:47 AM, #63
  Hi, Will. There are two different articles; you are looking at an editoria BevHarris Jul-08-03 11:58 AM, #65
     I'm going to try to browbeat my techies WilliamPitt Jul-08-03 12:32 PM, #67
     Will -- I'm going to PM you, let me give you something no one has BevHarris Jul-08-03 12:48 PM, #69
     Great work Bev... ianbruce Jul-08-03 01:13 PM, #72
     Pls check out other sources, too. mb_nyc Jul-08-03 01:48 PM, #80
        Dr. Dill and also Dr. Rebecca Mercuri have vast info online BevHarris Jul-08-03 01:53 PM, #82
           Mercuri and Dill mb_nyc Jul-08-03 02:09 PM, #84
              Dr. Dill needs permission from legals to do this, so it's not a given BevHarris Jul-08-03 02:15 PM, #86
                 California Task Force Report mb_nyc Jul-08-03 02:21 PM, #87
     good work. I just sent the story out alfredo Jul-08-03 01:28 PM, #75
        Greetings!!! Alfredo!!! Lostnote03 Jul-09-03 01:56 AM, #172
           Give them hell alfredo Jul-09-03 12:06 PM, #182
  I sent it to the Dean campaign Eloriel Jul-08-03 12:26 PM, #66
  Well, as a naysayer... Imajika Jul-08-03 02:23 PM, #88
     Why not work with some organizations ... mb_nyc Jul-08-03 02:33 PM, #89
     Agreed Nederland Jul-08-03 03:00 PM, #91
     ....Hype? You're entitled to your opinion ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 03:31 PM, #95
     Tired Nederland Jul-08-03 04:29 PM, #102
     Call me crazy Eloriel Jul-08-03 05:19 PM, #109
     Let me guess Nederland Jul-08-03 05:29 PM, #112
     You've seen all the code? Eloriel Jul-08-03 07:36 PM, #146
     I remember we had a thread about this subject & it involved the number 3 corarose Jul-09-03 03:20 AM, #178
     Attack? What Attack? Just another opinion.... ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 05:40 PM, #118
        Response Nederland Jul-08-03 05:52 PM, #121
           Sorry, not trying to pick a fight... ParanoidPat Jul-08-03 08:26 PM, #157
     I'm sorry but when you say a story is "bigger than Watergate" birdman Jul-08-03 06:58 PM, #134
        RE; "the notion that they will not get their vote counted".... ParanoidPat Jul-09-03 12:49 AM, #170
     Nederland Imajika Jul-08-03 06:54 PM, #133
     Nothing wrong with dissent, but... DEMActivist Jul-08-03 07:16 PM, #138
     Just one thing, Imajika Eloriel Jul-08-03 11:00 PM, #164
     no evidence? angka Jul-09-03 10:09 AM, #181
     Ahh, Imajika. So good of you to join us. Eloriel Jul-08-03 04:09 PM, #98
     Well, nice to see you too Imajika Jul-08-03 06:25 PM, #127
     What I think, Imajika, Eloriel Jul-08-03 07:15 PM, #137
     Imajika? truth2power Jul-08-03 07:53 PM, #152
     heh SDent Jul-09-03 04:02 PM, #184
     Blah blah blah ..... Trajan Jul-08-03 05:00 PM, #107
     why is important that everyone be totally convinced? Cocoa Jul-08-03 05:42 PM, #119
     Hmm chadm Jul-08-03 05:38 PM, #116
     Yes... Imajika Jul-08-03 07:30 PM, #143
     the same party...the CFR ? birdman Jul-08-03 07:39 PM, #148
        Oh yes, for certain Imajika Jul-08-03 07:53 PM, #151
           Watch out you're going to be called a Rove plant birdman Jul-08-03 07:58 PM, #153
              Nah...not you birdman... DEMActivist Jul-08-03 08:02 PM, #154
                 Ca-ching birdman Jul-08-03 08:12 PM, #156
     Who cares if it brings anyone down FlaGranny Jul-08-03 07:35 PM, #145
        Exactly! DEMActivist Jul-08-03 07:42 PM, #149
        DING, DING, DING!!! ibegurpard Jul-09-03 02:40 AM, #175
  Smart strategy Bev--you ROCK DrBB Jul-08-03 12:35 PM, #68
  LOL. Nicely put. BevHarris Jul-08-03 12:51 PM, #70
     Soon to undergo what the bio-hazard experts call DrBB Jul-08-03 01:26 PM, #74
     i am SO frustrated! nostamj Jul-08-03 01:28 PM, #76
  kick! - saw it first at BuzzFlash donsu Jul-08-03 01:30 PM, #77
  It's propagating. Just went up on BevHarris Jul-08-03 01:40 PM, #79
  Link here antigop Jul-08-03 01:50 PM, #81
  Slashdot Crisco Jul-08-03 09:11 PM, #160
  I am letting some University people in on this as well. midnitemoleman Jul-08-03 02:06 PM, #83
  Alt web address due to system overload at Scoop New Zealand BevHarris Jul-08-03 02:11 PM, #85
  Just sent it out to alfredo Jul-08-03 02:38 PM, #90
  Bev, what a fantastic bit of work! juajen Jul-08-03 03:25 PM, #94
  Kick dmr Jul-08-03 03:01 PM, #92
  Georgia newspapers are calling BevHarris Jul-08-03 03:10 PM, #93
  I gave the story to... sgr2 Jul-08-03 03:43 PM, #96
  Hallelujah party_line Jul-08-03 03:48 PM, #97
  WooHoo!!! Eloriel Jul-08-03 04:57 PM, #106
  CandidateCounter and SumCandidateCounter are not copies Fredda Weinberg Jul-08-03 04:18 PM, #100
  top story on www.slashdot.org! Chef_Ramen_Noodle Jul-08-03 04:28 PM, #101
  My favorite line from a slashdot post: BevHarris Jul-08-03 04:44 PM, #104
     My favorite line -- Eloriel Jul-08-03 07:48 PM, #150
     LOL Lostnote03 Jul-09-03 02:12 AM, #173
  Bev this is REALLY BIG ! bearfan454 Jul-08-03 04:46 PM, #105
  I just sent more messages alfredo Jul-08-03 05:01 PM, #108
  the nz site must be swamped... grasswire Jul-08-03 05:19 PM, #110
     Mirror=whatreallyhappened.com DEMActivist Jul-08-03 05:21 PM, #111
  Shhhhhh.... Eloriel Jul-08-03 05:33 PM, #113
  Moving up the media food chain BevHarris Jul-08-03 05:36 PM, #114
  So Bev supercrash Jul-08-03 06:02 PM, #124
     Not Bev, but.... DEMActivist Jul-08-03 06:15 PM, #126
        Exactly... deseo Jul-08-03 07:30 PM, #144
  SCOOP.NZ HAS BEEN SLASHDOTTED!!!!!! Walt Starr Jul-08-03 05:38 PM, #115
  A little perspective Eloriel Jul-08-03 05:39 PM, #117
  I'll second that - great summary post! Pobeka Jul-08-03 07:27 PM, #142
  You're right! truth2power Jul-08-03 08:07 PM, #155
  It does explain a lot dusty64 Jul-08-03 10:32 PM, #163
  Does Cali have black box voting.... Nazgul35 Jul-08-03 05:46 PM, #120
  Yes hunter Jul-08-03 06:40 PM, #132
  Kick zekeson Jul-08-03 05:53 PM, #122
  A Big Kick TNOE Jul-08-03 05:55 PM, #123
  that slashdot thread.... grasswire Jul-08-03 06:05 PM, #125
  Congrats, Bev! tjdee Jul-08-03 06:25 PM, #128
  Having trouble bringing up the Scoop site Dover Jul-08-03 06:29 PM, #129
  Busy, busy, busy...try here DEMActivist Jul-08-03 06:31 PM, #131
     Thanks!........ Dover Jul-08-03 07:01 PM, #135
  Thanks from Johnson County KS-home of the shining new machines! MidwestMomma Jul-08-03 07:10 PM, #136
  Logged, I will put those files on my server as well JCMach1 Jul-08-03 07:17 PM, #139
  Bev, I will also keep them filed away and make them JCMach1 Jul-08-03 07:21 PM, #141
  It is up at radio free nation!! alfredo Jul-08-03 07:19 PM, #140
  I believe the atmosphere is right now for this to really get legs. madfloridian Jul-08-03 07:37 PM, #147
  I'm glad to see this out, but dusty64 Jul-08-03 08:28 PM, #158
  I've watched Scoop pretty carefully for 9 months. He's no dummy BevHarris Jul-08-03 11:35 PM, #165
     It does seem like the harris dusty64 Jul-09-03 08:18 AM, #180
  Thanks for your work, Bev. ih8thegop Jul-08-03 08:50 PM, #159
  Definitely Eloriel Jul-08-03 09:55 PM, #161
  Thanks so much, Bev! Vadem Jul-08-03 10:08 PM, #162
  kicking ibegurpard Jul-08-03 11:35 PM, #166
  I'm having a major tinfoil attack here. ibegurpard Jul-09-03 12:13 AM, #167
  Niger claims have been building up sometime ... white_rider Jul-09-03 12:21 AM, #168
     You can try.... ParanoidPat Jul-09-03 01:13 AM, #171
        Hmmm ... perhaps Diebold should have used LASsie? white_rider Jul-09-03 02:37 AM, #174
           ROFLMAO! Are you trying to tell me.... ParanoidPat Jul-09-03 02:49 AM, #176
  the attempted recall of cal. governor gray davis Insider Jul-09-03 12:32 AM, #169
  Bev have you seen this story yet? Just picked it up in LBN and don't Dover Jul-09-03 02:54 AM, #177
  Kick LibertyorDeath Jul-09-03 04:59 AM, #179
  kick donsu Jul-09-03 02:55 PM, #183

HerbieHeadhunter (18 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul-08-03 02:45 AM
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1. Wow.....reading now.

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nextbillgates (93 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul-08-03 02:48 AM
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